PORTION OF FM 389 CLOSED THIS WEEKEND
The Texas Department of Transportation will be closing a portion of FM 389 in Brenham this weekend.
On Saturday, October 28th, the Texas Department of Transportation’s contractor will close FM 389 between Longwood Drive and the US 290 Frontage Road. This closure will allow the contractor to replace a culvert crossing FM 389 in this area. A signed detour will be in place to direct traffic to Longwood Drive and Industrial Blvd. FM 389 is expected to reopen by the end of the day on Sunday, October 29th.
TxDOT would like to remind everyone to obey all warning signs, watch for workers and equipment, buckle up and drive safe.
This work is part of a $4.3 million project to widen FM 389 to a three lane roadway with a continuous two-way left turn lane with bicycle lanes and sidewalks between US 290 and FM 332 in Brenham. This project is contracted to Angle Brothers Holding Corp. out of Baytown, Texas and is expected to be complete by December 2018.
If you’re actually a surveyor, then you should know better. The current width and layout of Old Mill Creek road don’t have anything to do with today’s ‘planners.’ Furthermore, just who exactly at the county would constitute the ‘planner’ who should be blamed for the existing condition, or should be responsible for ‘fixing it?’ As well, you mention the city block system, but you don’t seem cognizant that the ‘city block system’ doesn’t extend infinitely out into the countryside, which any surveyor knows. Lastly, why would any practicing current surveyor attack someone who is defending the solutions of ‘yesteryear’s planners’ and the efforts and today’s planners? The surveyors I work with don’t regard municipal and county planners as the enemy, and they don’t undercut them publicly.
“Say WHAAAT ?” No planners in the 1800’s? You can’t say that today about tomorrow when you ain’t right about yesterday. The planners of yesterday did plan for today. Unfortunately, the planners of today (here) aren’t planning for tomorrow. Now, maybe if you read this today…….you’ll have your facts straight by tomorrow. Good luck today for the sake of tomorrow.
Got any evidence to back up that assertion?
I can’t believe the lack of knowledge we have in our culture. I don’t want to sound mean; but I’m simply astonished in a sad pitiful sort of way. City planning has existed in the United States since the late 1600’s. The city block system was being used then. I guess simple common sense was more prevalent in previous centuries. Quite unfortunate.
Not denying the city planning, and my quotes around “developed” are meant to highlight that the road wasn’t developed in quite the same manner as citizens tend to believe new modern streets are developed. If it was, then I’m wrong, and thanks for correcting me. Then I would ask what you would you think of similar complaints concerning FM390/La Bahia road. Would you suggest La Bahia road was developed in the modern sense?
I thought this discussion originally concerned the rural portion of Old Mill Creek. Got the field notes from the crew that laid it out? Did it exist prior to their efforts as a traveled path? Did the county surveyor that planned it foresee the eventual need to accomodate bicycles, pedestrians, and high-speed motorized traffic? City planning has of course been around for at least a couple thousand years, but blaming today’s planners for the common-sense solutions to yesteryear’s problems not also resolving today’s is poor scholarship. Without any research, however, I tend toward the guesstimate that Old Mill Creek road’s right-of-way width was originally set to meet the expected needs of that era, which certainly isn’t the fault of today’s planners.
Good planning goes beyond the length of one’s nose. That is the truth.
The city block system certainly was in use in the 1800s — in cities. We’re talking the rural portion of the road, which isn’t in the city limits (yet). Also seems pretty silly to condemn another poster as astonishingly ignorant when you haven’t even read their post closely enough to grasp that essential distinction. And what does common sense have to do with it? Common sense would be that it’s rude and foolish to blame folks today for decisions that were made decades before most of us were born.
* Very nicely response and I had a little chuckle reading this as someone who tells it like l see it. Let’s keep the positive in life and just have fun with it.
#gostros17
Tells what like you see it? Neither your comment, nor Stewie’s or Pinocchio’s makes any sense. Try referring to something specific in another poster’s comment if you seek discourse. Otherwise you’re essentially just name-calling.
Facts straight? There were urban planners in the 1800s planning for high speed two-way motorized traffic and recreational biking and hiking on a cartpath? No wonder we don’t have any traffic problems today! Imagine the farsighted vision these titans of good governance must have possessed!
It was a lost opportunity when the old railroad was abandoned between Brenham and Burton and that did not become a bicycle and hiking trail. Instead, we are now stuck with a narrow cow trail called Old Mill Creek Rd. that continues to increase in traffic between Blinn and Hwy 290. It is good to finally see well thought out planning on FM 389. Too bad the planner wasn’t thinking like this on Old Mill Creek Rd.
First, let me agree whole-heartedly that it would be great to have an extensive system of trails in the area to utilize for hiking and biking; I hope fervently that somone will organize a non-profit to try to ‘buy-back’ the old Texas & New Orleans railroad right-of-way that stretches from Chappell Hill to Brenham, as it is largely intact, but several property owners would have to be willing to sell or donate land to make that happen. Old Mill Creek road is a “cow trail” because that is all it has ever been; there was no “planner” when OMC road was ‘developed’ back in the 1800s. The railroad right-of-way was abandoned a looong time ago, well before bicycling and hiking were common leisure activities for adults. Furthermore, the OMC road right-of-way boundary is not and never has been entirely congruent with the railroad right-of-way boundary, so there has never been an opportunity to utilize the abandoned railroad right-of-way to widen the entire length of OMC road. Some parts are congruent, and could have been utilized in this way, except for the fact that abandoned railroad rights-of-way often revert to the owners of the private property that originally gave up land to the railroad in the first place, so these property owners would have had to agree to this unless the government were willing to exercise eminent domain.
Glad to see bicycle lanes. We need more of this. The people who complain about cyclist on the road will be the same people who complain about the building of bike lanes. More people are becoming health/fitness conscious and the amount of cyclists on the road will only increase.
Meanwhile, FM 390 has taken a big step backwards with the addition of rumble strips on the side. Now cyclists are forced to ride in the lane rather than being able to move to the side of the road for traffic.
I completely agree with you. Our area needs to become friendlier to runners/cyclists on our roads. Our city needs bike paths and sidewalks to encourage all our wonderful people to be healthier. It would be good for all of us.
Glad to see good Engineering on FM389. The difference between State Projects and In-House Municipal Projects is reflected when FM389 is compared to OMC.
Cant not believe they are putting a walkway and a bicycle lane. What about,the traffic at the 4 way stop sign.. the high way 36 road and 290 road work.. this is where our tax money goes… ever since they moved the cities limits out on 389, it’s been nothing but hell. Nobody has worried about until now.. really it just dont make since
there is nothing wrong with building bike trails but the bike riders should help pay for these trails by having to pay for some kind of license and inspection stickers and maybe also insurance for their bikes they can’t except the tax payers to pay for their pleasures. Most bike riders I see or have talked to come here to ride from Houston and Austin area they are here almost every weekend mostly in Chappel Hill
Then let them pay for it. We do not. They need to pay.